It is likely that Axel Rudakubana “will be in custody for all his life”, the judge who sentenced the Southport child killer said today.

Mr Justice Goose handed down a minimum 52-year term for the brutal murder of three young girls in Southport last year and the attempted murder of several more. Kamal and Camilla reflect on a shocking crime that rocked the nation and its impact on the devastated families - and a community.

Plus, hear from the Telegraph journalist who checked into rehab…for a social media addiction. Lorna Perry’s obsession with her phone was getting in the way of her relationships and hobbies. She shares how she learned to cut down on her scrolling - and our hosts reveal how much time they spend on their phones…

Read: I went to a rehab clinic with crystal meth addicts to get over my phone addiction - Lorna Perry

You can hear more from Allison Pearson on another Telegraph podcast, Planet Normal. Search wherever you listened to this.

Producer: Lilian Fawcett

Senior Producer: John Cadigan

Planning Editor: Venetia Rainey

Executive Producer: Louisa Wells

Social Media Producer: Rachel Duffy

Video Editor: Andy Mackenzie

Studio Operator: Meghan Searle

Editor: Camilla Tominey

Original music by Goss Studio

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.