Storytelling can inspire us to take action on the ever-worsening climate crisis. Ali Horriyat and Cathryn Bancroft join forces in writing a new cli-fi book, The Hollow Age, which dares to ask the question: if our planet burns, do we run to another planet or risk everything to save it? Together with Corinna Bellizzi, they discuss how they use fiction to shed light on the alarming realities of the earth right now. Ali and Cathryn also break down the best ways to address the immigration problem in the United States and what it truly takes to begin a social revolution that leads to a real difference.

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About Guests: Ali and Cathryn are the co-authors of new cli-fi dystopian novel "The Hollow Age," from Compassiviste Publishing. When Ali contacted Cathryn about a collaboration with Compassiviste, she was excited to work on a novel that doesn't try to sugarcoat the trouble our world is in, but doesn't try to convince us it's hopeless, either. No matter how bad things get, helping each other is the best and only way to make them better again.

Guest Website: https://authorclaire.com/as-cathryn-bankroft/

Guest Social:
https://www.instagram.com/compassiviste
https://www.youtube.com/@CompassivisteDialogues

Additional Resources Mentioned:
https://compassiviste.com/product/the-hollow-age/
Buy "The Hollow Age" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/4o2UtXv

Show Notes: 

02:17 - How Ali And Cathryn Worked Together

06:51 - How To Break The Wheel Of History

12:21 - The Collaborative Process Of Writing “The Hollow Age”

19:32 - Combining Different Writing Styles To Create A Powerful Message

28:17 - Did We Planet Skip In The Past (And Could We Do It In The Future)

33:16 - The Best Way To Address And Solve The Immigration Problem

37:07 - What It Takes To Start A Game-Changing Revolution

51:39 - Most Memorable Parts Of “The Hollow Age”

55:45 - Biggest Lessons In Collaborating With Another Person

01:04:54 - Get In Touch With Ali And Cathryn

01:06:46 - Episode Wrap-up And Closing Words

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