Into the Vortex
Description
In the first episode, host Charlene Norman of Good Stewardship; Lasting Impact took a brutally honest look at the in between stage we are all living through -- the messy middle. In the second episode, she began sharing the thoughts of Ernesto van Peborgh founder of the Seva Institute and prolific writer on Substack as a case study we can all learn from. In this episode, she weaves through how the problems we face are not just personal or organizational—they are systemic. The “multi-polar traps” of complexity theory are everywhere and yes, they can be debilitating.
Key Highlights
-Understanding Systemic Traps: The Real Enemy
-Building Capacity: Holding Paradox and Uncertainty
-Developing Capabilities: Tools for Navigating Complexity
-Embracing the Vortex: The Emotional Journey of Transformation
-Living with Grief: Turning Sadness into a Compass
-Purpose as Lifeline: Climbing the Ladder Out of Darkness
-Action Steps for Leaders: Navigating the Edge
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