We're excited to introduce you to Gender Reveal, an award-winning podcast made by and about trans people. Host Tuck Woodstock interviews LGBTQ+ artists, activists, and educators; answers listener questions; breaks down this week's gender news; and gets a little bit closer to understanding what the heck gender is.

In this episode, Tuck speaks with theorist, author, and abolitionist Da’Shaun Harrison (they/them). Topics include:

• The way fatness functions as its own gender


• Working towards a better world without hope that we’ll achieve it


• Why the concept of health is unsalvageable


• Why we’re tired of talking about pronouns with cis people


• Plus: destroying gender!

Find Da’Shaun and Belly of the Beast: The Politics of Anti-Fatness as Anti-Blackness at linktr.ee/DaShaunLH.

References: “Mama’s Baby, Papa’s Maybe” by Hortense J. Spillers.

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