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Is ‘Toxic Empathy’ Pulling Christians to the Left?

Is ‘Toxic Empathy’ Pulling Christians to the Left?

Update: 2025-07-17
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The conservative Christian podcaster Allie Beth Stuckey joins Ross on “Interesting Times” this week to explain why “toxic empathy” has a stranglehold on politics, whether evangelical Christians have a red line President Trump could cross and why her commentary has echoes of Phyllis Schlafly.

  • 01:26 “The New Phyllis Schlafly”
  • 9:46 Untangling the web of Evangelical Protestants
  • 15:50 Female authority in the church
  • 22:12 What is “toxic empathy”?
  • 30:55 Toxic empathy and cruelty in American politics
  • 40:19 Do conservative christians have a red line?
  • 57:24 “The mushy middle”

(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)

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Is ‘Toxic Empathy’ Pulling Christians to the Left?

Is ‘Toxic Empathy’ Pulling Christians to the Left?

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