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In this episode of The Ayn Rand Institute Podcast, Tristan de Liège and Ben Bayer discuss the widespread claim that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza.



Among the topics covered:




Decoupling from the confusion of “international law”



Validating the concept of “genocide”;



The invalid collectivist elements of the concept;



The absurd UN definition of “genocide”;



Why the valid concept does not apply to Israel;



Sidebar on the issue of just and unjust war;



The genocidal intent of Hamas




Recommended in this podcast is Elan Journo’s book What Justice Demands: America and the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict, Ben Bayer's essay "We Ignore the Unconditional Right to Self-Defense at Our Peril", and the podcast with Elan Journo and Nikos Sotirakopolous, "Did Israel Steal Palestinian Land?"



The podcast was recorded on October 3, 2025, and posted on October 7, 2025. Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Watch archived podcasts here.