Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3

 

Hosts: John Chisum, Claire Bacon, & Bryant Urich

 

Episode Title: Inside Music Publishing

 

Episode Summary:
In this episode of Song Revolution, John Chisum is joined by Claire Bacon and Bryant Urich from the NCS team for a lively and practical discussion on music publishing. Together, they break down the difference between creative and administrative publishing, share behind-the-scenes stories from Claire’s time at Bethel Music, and explore how co-writing, retreats, and publishing support can shape a songwriter’s career.

 

The conversation also dives into the DIY side of publishing—what it means to take control of your rights and royalties, how to avoid getting lost in the sea of mediocre songs released every day, and why honing your craft is essential if you want to stand out.

 

What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

• The difference between creative and administrative publishing
• Why pairing the right writers together makes or breaks a song
• Stories from Claire’s experience interning at Bethel Music
• The role of writing retreats and camps in developing strong songs
• How to DIY your publishing if you don’t have a company backing you
• Why focusing on quality and intentionality helps your songs stand out

 

Key Topics & Highlights:

• Claire’s journey from MTSU to Bethel Music to NCS
• The matchmaking side of creative publishing and how it shapes songwriting sessions
• How NCS retreats create powerful co-writing opportunities
• The challenge of standing out among millions of songs released each year
• Avoiding vague lyrics and writing with genre and purpose in mind
• Favorite songwriters and the impact of writers like Mia Fieldes, Cody Carnes, and Benjamin William Hastings

 

Final Takeaway:
Music publishing is more than contracts and royalties—it’s about connection, collaboration, and ensuring your songs have the best chance to thrive. Whether through a publisher or by learning the DIY path, understanding the business side of songwriting is just as important as mastering the craft.

 

Resources & Links:

 

 NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com

 

Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025

 

Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training

 

Explore NCS Community and membership options
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community

 

NCS Collective: Check out our artists!

https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/