Gear, Growth, and Gains Episode 017
Janoshik Laughs Off Bribery, Says SLU-PP-332 is NOT Meant for Vials, and Talks About a Sharp Influx in Counterfeit Steroids… Masteron, However, Has Been Mostly Real!


Show Time

48 min, 02 sec

Show Notes and Description

In episode 17 of Gear, Growth, and Gains, Peter Magic (Janoshik) discusses the science and ethics of peptide and anabolic steroid testing. Peter, who leads a major Czech testing lab, details analytical methods (HPLC, LC-MS, GC-MS), market trends, and the prevalence of counterfeit products. He addresses peptide stability, endotoxin risks, and manufacturing advances, emphasizing that most peptides are more stable and safer than commonly believed. The episode highlights the need for rigorous, transparent testing and warns against unreliable labs, underscoring the importance of scientific integrity in the enhanced bodybuilding community.

Outline and Timestamps

Podcast Introduction and Disclaimers (00:00:30 ) Host introduces the show, gives disclaimers, and promotes Meso-Rx and related platforms.

Type-IIx Insider Program Launch (00:02:06 ) Details about the new premium content program, symposiums, ebooks, and a limited-time discount.

Guest Introduction: Peter Magic / Janoshik (00:02:55 ) Host introduces Peter Magic (Janoshik), his background, and his company’s focus on testing peptides and steroids.

Origin of the Janoshik Name (00:03:16 ) Peter explains the significance of the Janoshik name and its Slovakian roots.

Janoshik as a Folk Hero (00:03:46 ) Discussion about Janoshik as a real-life Robin Hood figure in Slovak folklore.

Starting the Testing Business (00:04:17 ) Peter describes how and why he started his testing business around 2012-2013.

Transition to Building a Team (00:05:10 ) Peter discusses moving from solo work to hiring staff and scaling the company over the last five years.

Lab Equipment and Analytical Methods (00:06:29 ) Overview of the lab’s equipment, including HPLC, LCMS, and GCMS, and their uses in compound identification.

Novel and Unlisted Compounds (00:09:07 ) Peter talks about encountering novel compounds not found in standard databases, including experimental cannabinoids.

Personal Accomplishments (00:10:11 ) Peter shares personal achievements, including his children and powerlifting milestones.

Most Egregious Fake or Underdosed Products (00:12:13 ) Discussion of recent trends in fake or underdosed products, including steroids replaced with other substances.

Current State of the Anabolic Steroid Market (00:14:45 ) Peter describes the decline in quality and availability of anabolic steroids and raw materials, especially from China.

Peptide Market Trends and SLU-PP-332 ("Sloopy") (00:17:48 ) Discussion about the peptide market, SLUPP 332, and issues with its formulation and solubility.

Testing NAD+ vs. Peptides (00:20:45 ) Comparison of testing methods for NAD+ and peptides, and challenges in purity assessment.

Challenges Testing hCG and HMG (00:23:26 ) Explains difficulties in testing hCG and HMG due to molecular variability and manufacturing differences.

IGF Peptide Authenticity (00:26:32 ) Peter discusses the rarity of authentic IGF-1 samples and issues with degradation and market quality.

Price vs. Quality in IGF Peptides (00:29:15 ) No correlation found between price and quality in IGF peptides based on testing data.

Endotoxins in Samples (00:29:53 ) Overview of endotoxin testing, its relevance, and the impact of manufacturing methods on contamination.

Manufacturing Methods and Endotoxin Risk (00:33:12 ) Differences between E. coli and mammalian cell line production, and their effects on endotoxin contamination.

Injection Safety and Endotoxin Risks (00:34:33 ) Discussion on the relative safety of subcutaneous injections and minor risks associated with endotoxins.

Peptide Stability and Degradation Experiments (00:36:16 ) Peter shares findings from informal experiments on peptide stability, agitation, and thermal stress.

Bribery and Maintaining Independence (00:39:24 ) Peter recounts experiences with bribery attempts and how company growth ensures independence and integrity.

Other Testing Companies and Industry Ethics (00:40:55 ) Peter critiques other testing labs, highlighting issues with legitimacy, transparency, and accountability.

Importance of Team and Employee Recognition (00:44:58 ) Peter emphasizes the contributions of his team and wishes for more recognition of their work.

Podcast Wrap-Up and Final Promotions (00:46:00 ) Host thanks Peter, wraps up the episode, and promotes related forums and lab bloodwork services.

Transcript

Cormac Mannion (Type-IIx) 00:00:30  This show is not intended for the treatment of prevention of disease, nor is a substitute for medical treatment, nor as an alternative to medical advice. No part herein, nor any statement, act or omission made by Cormac Mannion or Ampouletude LLC or its agents or affiliates are to be construed as treatment of any medical condition, medical advice, nor to delay necessary medical treatment. Scientific evidence is discussed for informational purposes only. No patient-doctor relationship is formed. This is the 17th episode of Gear Growth and Gains, brought to you by Meso-Rx, the leading platform for open and unfiltered discussion on enhanced bodybuilding. Members freely share experiences, hold sources accountable, and ensure transparency. No censorship, just real reviews. Visit Meso-Rx at www.thinksteroids.com/community and start posting if you want to subscribe to the Gear Growth and Gains newsletter, visit https://typeiix.substack.com to subscribe or go to ampouletude.com and click Sign up for Type-IIx's Newsletter. And don't forget to check out @geargrowthgains one word on Telegram. I am also offering my most valued subscribers early access to the Type-IIx Insider Deal, a special offer for premium content via Substack, the Type-IIx Insider Program that includes not only premium exclusive articles not found anywhere else that delve insanely deep into important drug and training topics, but also exclusive ebooks that I'll distribute through Substack and access to symposiums, my notorious live presentations, and Q and A's.

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Peter Magic (Janoshik) 00:02:55  We're on.

Cormac Mannion (Type-IIx) 00:02:56  Yes, Peter. Nice to meet you. Thank you for coming here, Peter. So I'm here today with Janoshik. Okay, so everybody knows him as Janoshik. He is the biggest company involved in this space for testing peptides. Peter Magic is here. He's Slovak now in the Czech Republic. Is that correct? You're actually from. You're Slovak? Yeah, yeah. Slovak.

Peter Magic (Janoshik) 00:03:16  Yeah, yeah. I was born in Slovakia. I actually used the name Janosik to distinguish the fact that I'm from Slovakia. It's like the national hero over there. And many, many years ago, we just roamed the anonymous boards online.

Peter Magic (Janoshik) 00:03:32  but we sort of wanted to get distinguished. So we set up some nicknames, like the Italian Janacek, etc., etc. and it sort of stuck with me, you know?

Cormac Mannion (Type-IIx) 00:03:46  Yeah. From what I understand, Janoshik is like the real life Robin Hood, from what we hear over here. He was like a highwayman, but actually existed. Is that true?

Multiple Speakers 00:03:54  Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Peter Magic (Janoshik) 00:03:56  That's true. and he's really well known in Slovakia. They made a couple of movies about him. And it's a folk legend.

Multiple Speakers 00:04:04  Basically, I can't like. I can't believe we don't know who it is. Like, it's just. Yeah. First. First I've ever heard of Janoshik is your company. So when did you open up business on janoshik.com for the international online market?

Peter Magic (Janoshik) 00:04:17  Well, I've been around since 2012 or 2013. I would have to check. and I'm not really confident. You know, I didn't keep too many records from back then, but it was just walking with friends.

Peter Magic (Janoshik) 00:04:29  You know, I had many friends in the bodybuilding and powerlifting and weightlifting communities in general, and they had this issue that they were using stuff and they didn't have a slightest idea what they were using. There were some companies like Semic in Switzerland and so on. we did the test, but they were incredibly so expensive. Wrong all the time. So they weren't accepting private people, private person business, and I figured I might try it out to help my friends at a local university. So we did just that.

Cormac Mannion (Type-IIx) 00:05:10  Yeah, that's pretty cool. I mean, to be able to help your friends out like that. So at what point did you transition from handling testing yourself to building out a team? And how is that scaling process altered your day to day involvement?

Peter Magic (Janoshik) 00:05:22  Wow. I did all the testing myself until, like five years ago when then I hired some help for. So it's only.

Cormac Mannion (Type-IIx) 00:05:34  Been five years. Really? Okay, yeah, but you've been around. You started doing this, like, a decade ago, and in the last five years, you've really grown.

Peter Magic (Janoshik) 00:05:41  Yeah. Yeah, that's that's. I was handling it all myself for quite a while. That's been real difficult. But