Today we talk with Jesse Mikec from Safe.Right.Fast. This is probably the most fun that we have had recording an episode - be prepared to laugh and sometimes wonder what we are talking about, but also to learn some great things about the rollercoaster that is starting your own business. 

OH, and a disclaimer - we have come to the conclusion that it is the foxes burrowing that ruins the vines, which also means that the bunnies wouldn't be any better...but we are definitely not sure about the science of any of this. If you have insight, let us know!