Multi-hyphenate and first season American Idol contestant, Jim Verraros, joins us to chat about the insanity of being closeted on Idol, coming out afterwards and the weirdness that is Simon Cowell. But first, we discuss Mark Harris' piece in the NYTimes about how gay culture is tortured by its own obsession with muscles. And finally, Alan discusses why the food he cooks for Michael makes him dry heave.

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