Joe Marler drops by the For The Love Of Rugby studio to tell Ben Youngs and Dan Cole about life after retiring as an England rugby player.

We learn about the real reason he called time on his international career, his final game for Harlequins, and his new role as Performance Director of Team England Rugby. Yep, we're surprised too.

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