Marv interviews a long-time friend Joey Helpish (aka Unkle Nancy). Joey is one of the most fascinating guests we have had the honor of interviewing on our podcast. He is a singer/songwriter, music theorist, music educator, music therapist, and happens to also be autistic. Joey teaches us his music theory called Root Motives and demonstrates through music how it works. Sit back and enjoy Joey Helpish!

• https://joeyhelpish.com/

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