Kathy Gaines continues the discussion on rote learning versus how black choirs learned music “by ear”, which allowed the spread of Edwin’s music to other churches. Kathy talks about Edwin’s unique teaching style and his influence on choir directors in the COGIC church.  She reflects on how Ed, with varying degrees of talent, was able to cultivate the sound he wanted. She recounts the time when gospel music crossed over into secular space, and celebrates all the lives touched as a result.

Hig   dinners and other fundraisers to generate money for their trip.

• Mattie Moss Clarke hears the Northern California Youth Choir sing, and rises to her feet in praise!
• Kathy is floored when she hears ”Oh Happy Day” played on the radio, alongside gospel greats Aretha Franklin, The Dorsey Sisters and Mahalia Jackson.
• The ministry evolves and the music of the COGIC church is spread in non traditional spaces in the secular world - like jazz festivals and rock concerts.

In the next episode meet Arva Campbell, one of the original members of The Edwin Hawkins Singers.