What have genes got to do with inequality? It’s a thorny question. But it one that Kathryn Paige Harden squarely addresses in her book and in this episode of Dialogues. She explains the new science of genetics and how it can help understand outcomes like college completion. Along the way we discuss the importance of the disability rights movement, the nature of meritocracy, what luck has to do with it, designer babies, regional inequality, and how one byproduct of her Christian upbringing is an appreciation for the unique and equal value of every person. 

Kathryn Paige Harden

Kathryn Paige Harden is a Professor of Psychology at the University of Texas, where she directs the Developmental Behavior Genetics lab and co-directs the Texas Twin Project. Harden is also a fellow at the Jacobs Foundation. Having received her Ph.D. in Clinical Psychology from the University of Virginia, her work has focused on genetic influences on complex human behavior, including child cognitive development, academic achievement, risk-taking, mental health, sexual activity, and childbearing. 

More Harden

• Her thought-provoking new book, The Genetic Lottery, can be purchased here. 


• Harden’s previous New York Times op-ed is a great starting place for learning more on this topic. 


• Read her recent profile in the New Yorker, “Can Progressives Be Convinced That Genetics Matters?”


• For more, check out her website and follow her on twitter: @kph3k

Also mentioned

• I referred to my paper “The Glass Floor: Education, Downward Mobility, and Opportunity Hoarding”.I write a NYT oped on the same theme, too.


• I mentioned Joseph Fishkin’s book, Bottlenecks: A New Theory of Equal Opportunity 


• Harden referred to the work of Pamela Herd, specifically on the topic of Genes, Gender Inequality, and Educational Attainment 


• I referred to Caroline Hoxby’s work of mapping cognitive skills by region in the United States. 


• Harden mentioned a study by Abdel Abdellaoui on the geographic distribution of genetics in the United Kingdom. (See Twitter thread here). 


• Harden referred to Dan Belsky’s study in Dunedin, New Zealand. 


• I mentioned an article written by Toby Young, the son of Michael Young, and what he calls “Progressive Eugenics” 

The Dialogues Team 

Creator: Richard Reeves

Research: Ashleigh Maciolek

Artwork: George Vaughan Thomas

Tech Support: Cameron Hauver-Reeves

Music: "Remember" by Bencoolen (thanks for the permission, guys!)