Actor, writer and mental health advocate Rob Mokoraka joins James Nokise to talk about making theatre out of trauma and finding a way through the storm of depression. Rob's chicken of choice? Chicken karaage.

This podcast this episode contains offensive language and discussion of suicide and sexual abuse as well as language and themes which some may find, as James says, very "real".

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