What do Gondwanaland, the kōkako, bat walks, and eliminating New Zealand’s invasive animal species have in common? They’re all things Ben Paris spoke with me about in this new episode! Find all of the Give Bats A Break merch, socials, and podcasting platforms at the Linktree. I'd love it if you would leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts or Podchaser! Find and follow Ben Paris on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, or TikTok! Go to the Bird of the Year 2021 website and vote for the pekapeka-tou-roa (or whatever you'd like to vote for, but make sure the bat is in there. No pressure. Big Bat is watching.)! Dig the song? Want to hear more? Check out my boy MNPHST.