Biohacker, founder, molecular biophysicist, former NASA scientist. Dr. Josiah Zayner has worn many hats. Having been there and done that, Josiah invited us to try something different: an anti-interview. Something emergent, playful, different. And so, in this episode, we create dialogue around our selves and society. Join us!

• Founder & CEO, The Odin: the-odin.com
• Josiah’s Socials:
  • Twitter: @4LovOfScience
  • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/josiah.zayner
  • Website: http://www.josiahzayner.com/

• On being reached out to. [2:30 ]
• Unique and interesting people. [3:00 ]
• Best hope for our conversation. [4:25 ]
• Why did Art start the podcast? [8:10 ]
• Entering into the unknown. [13:40 ]
• Josiah’s recent journey with the unknown. [15:00 ]
• On being a good thinker. [20:50 ]
• Thinkers versus doers? [25:00 ]
• On marketing. [26:55 ]
• Social media? [37:15 ]
• On selling. [43:00 ]
• Being and performing in society. [48:25 ]
• Trying things out: Being more social. [1:05:15 ]
• Love and be loved. [1:12:15 ]
• Who are you becoming – Josiah. [1:14:40 ]
• Who are you becoming – Art. [1:16:15 ]

• Eastside Institute
• The Tim Ferris Show
• Dave Asprey
• Chris Reyman
• Tony Perone
• Raquell Holmes

Art Assoiants: Dr. Josiah Zayner is constantly pushing the boundaries of science outside traditional environments. He started biohacking during his PhD in molecular biophysics at the University of Chicago, creating the V chromo cord in his apartments, the world’s first musical instrument that uses engineered protein nanotechnology. Since then, Josiah’s science and art has been featured in exhibits at the Museum of Modern Art in San Francisco and New York, the Cooper Hewitt, Smithsonian Design Museum, and other world renowned venues. After his PhD, Josiah received a prestigious fellowship to work with NASA’s synthetic biology program, engineering bacteria to help terraform Mars. Epic. Now he’s the founder and CEO of The Odin, a company that is making genetic engineering available to consumers at home. In some sense, this is an anti interview. We don’t talk about his work necessarily. We really want to show what it’s like to get to know each other. Josiah asks me questions, we demonstrate our curiosity for each other’s lives and talk more about what it’s like to be a person and what’s important to us. With that said, join us.

Art Assoiants: Hi. It’s a pleasure to connect with you in this way. This is the first time that I’ve been reached out to, so there’s a lot of learning for me in this process.

Josiah Zayner: Honestly, I think this might be the first time I really reached out to somebody else. I don’t know how I saw your podcast. I think you are following me on Twitter and I started listening to your podcast and I was like, “wow, this is so unique and cool and interesting. I want to be part of this if I can.” And so I’m like, “I’m going to try to reach out and see if I can be part, participate with you and make something with you.” I thought it was super cool.

Art Assoiants: Love it. And I mean, here we are, we were making it into existence.

Josiah Zayner: Yeah, no, one of the things that I really enjoy in life is people who are very unique and interesting and I don’t want to say different, because that it’s can sometimes have a negative connotation. And from the podcast episodes I listened to, you just see