In this conversation, Abbie and I cover several topics related to leadership and healthcare. Abbie talks about the importance of heart-centered leadership, which involves prioritizing the needs of the people you lead, listening to their experiences, and leading with empathy and compassion. Abbie shares her experience of burning out as a leader and realising that heart-centered connection was missing. She shares about her spiritual awakening in Scotland, and how it inspired her PhD research, which focused on the effect of mistakes in healthcare and the need for self-compassion. 

This conversation highlights the importance of balancing heart-centered thinking with scientific rigor, being authentic, and being courageous in showing oneself completely. It also emphasizes the need for psychological safety in healthcare and being self-compassionate in caring for oneself and one's team. 

The leadership lessons include the importance of embracing one's natural leadership style and being connected to the sacred. 

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