All About Change is on break for the holidays. For now, we are re-airing one of our favorite episodes, Jay’s conversation with fellow dog lover, Lee Asher.

Lee Asher is known for his positive presence. Visit the Asher House page and you'll be met with countless videos of Lee greeting animals getting a second chance at his Oregon sanctuary. But Lee's struggles with mental health don't often get the same spotlight.

Lee joined host Jay Ruderman to talk about the importance of pet adoption, resilience, and what it took to go from a 9 to 5 to running a 240-acre animal sanctuary. The two also discuss Lee's long road with depression, and what changes he'd like to see in the animal rescue community.

Episode Chapters

(00:00 ) Intro 

(00:51 ) The connection between dogs and humans

(03:30 ) The impact of Lee’s childhood

(08:01 ) Resilience

(15:38 ) Lee’s unconventional career path

(20:19 ) The animal adoption RV

(25:22 ) Lee moves to social media

(30:45 ) Moving from an RV to a sanctuary

(32:08 ) Lee’s natural instincts around the animals he adopts

(34:12 ) How to get involved

(35:52 ) Goodbye

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