A therapist in today’s society can carry so many different meanings. But Heather doesn’t just carry her titles; she utilizes them. To her, they are living, breathing documents. Like the Constitution (but for your mental health). Amalia and Heather talk about the ties between addiction and money. Race and money. Self-worth and money. And intergenerational wealth. (Are you picking up on a common theme here?)

They also point out how far women of color have come, yet how far they have to go, still. These waters run deep, ladies and gentlemen.

Shifting gears slightly, Heather and Amalia discuss topic #1 on everyone’s mind (well, maybe #2; sex might be #1 on peoples’ list): money. Heather has a rather atypical stance on money and our relationship or affair with it: “I mentioned compassion earlier, but it’s also setting time to be with our money,” she says. “So really challenging the avoidance, even when it doesn’t feel good. It feels worse when you don’t know what’s happening. And that doesn’t mean checking your bank balance everyday because that can create fixation, and too much of a fixation can lead to avoidance.” For more about Heather and her work visit www.wisemindfinancial.com