Illustrator and artist Lucy Claire Dunbar joins Gaby for a chat about all things joy!

Lucy's illustrations are now SO popular - thanks to one of her super fans, Taylor Swift!

She talks to Gaby about her love of drawing, the tough times she's come through and how she just wants to spread love and joy through her art.

Her new book, The Book Of Gifts, is such a gorgeous piece of work - and is being compared to 'The Boy, The Mole, The Fox and The Horse' by Charlie Mackesy.

We hope you enjoy this warm and joyful conversation!

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