Charlie meets the comedian and actor Lucy Porter about comics (the kind you read), getting into classical music and getting into stand-up. Lucy tells Charlie about her first job working for Caroline Aherne at Granada TV and booking guests for the Mrs Merton Show, and they talk about using music to drift off to sleep.

Series 2 of Charlie Higson and Friends podcasts originally broadcast on Scala Radio in January 2023. Scala Radio celebrates classical music in all its shapes and sizes, and presents include Mark Kermode, Simon Mayo and Penny Smith. It broadcasts across the UK on DAB digital radio, on your smart speaker, the Scala Radio app and online at scalaradio.co.uk.