In this episode, Dale and Chris sit down with Tim Rutledge, Director of LEAPS Training and a retired narcotics agent, to explore the unique challenges first responders face in marriage—and the difficult road many walk through divorce. Tim shares candid insights from decades of service, stories from the field, and practical tools to strengthen relationships under pressure. Together, they discuss how to build trust, communicate through stress, and find resilience and hope, whether you’re fighting for your marriage or navigating the pain of separation.

Bible Verse Inspiration: "Be on your guard; stand firm in the faith; be courageous; be strong. Do everything in love."  -1 Corinthians 16:13 –14

Resources: https://www.leapstraining.com/