In this episode Vanessa and Carolina get real with what is happening in the U.S. right now. They talk about the realities and risks of being an immigrant in today’s world. They talk Alligator Alcatraz, the Reconciliation Budget, Climate change and defunding of NOAA. Immigrants don’t have the privilege to dissasociate, so we are experts at crisis handling and resilience. They discuss resistance, organizing, and finding resilience and joy while holding the fear at the same time.