Stevie talks about his tendency to beat himself up in life and wonders where that comes from. It is from being a sportsman and having to take extreme accountability for performance? Is it from wanting to please people through rugby?



Topics include: Stevie dives deep and reflects on his life as a child, businesses and sportspeople being driven by shame, businesses and sports-people being driven by being enough, the relationship between intelligence and self-doubt, the 'child' in all of us and how that plays a part in our lives now.



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We apologise for the quality of this recording, but hope that the content is something that really strikes a chord and you can feel some acceptance and optimism from hearing this conversation!