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Episode Date: 7.30.2025

Hosts: Karen Frazier, Chuckie G, and Cheryl Knight-Wilson

Show Summary:

In this episode of “Mindful Mystics,” we dive deep into the roller coaster of motivation — why it’s so hard to get started, even harder to stay consistent, and what actually works when willpower alone doesn’t cut it.

Karen introduces a surprisingly simple formula for motivation: expectation × value ÷ cost), and together we break it down with real-life examples — from workout routines and health goals to creative projects and the everyday “I’ll start tomorrow” trap. Along the way, Cheryl opens up about her own perfectionist hurdles with writing, Chuck shares how he manages motivation one tiny step at a time, and Karen explores how reframing expectations can shift everything.

If you’ve ever felt stuck or uninspired, this episode offers a path forward — one small step at a time.

Check out our hosts online at:

Paranormal Underground magazine: https://paranormalunderground.net/

Author and psychic medium Karen Frazier: https://www.authorkarenfrazier.com/#/

Paranormal Investigator and psychic medium Chuckie G: https://chuckieg.net/

Show Highlights:

[00:53 ] The Formula for Motivation

Karen introduces the expectation × value ÷ cost equation and explains how it applies to everyday goals.

[04:42 ] Finding Value in the Work

Karen shares how her love of hiking makes exercise meaningful, proving that value is as important as effort.

[09:56 ] Chuck on Health as Motivation

Chuck opens up about managing diabetes and why working out isn’t about looks but about staying alive and well.

[13:43 ] Step-by-Step Strategy

Karen explains how she tackles tough workouts by motivating herself in five-minute increments.

[16:12 ] Motivation as Self-Sales

Chuck reframes motivation as an inner sales pitch — convincing yourself the payoff is worth the cost.

[17:18 ] Cheryl and the Perfectionism Trap

Cheryl discusses how perfectionism blocks her from building consistent routines and trying new practices.

[23:35 ] Small Goals, Big Progress

Karen shares her intentional weight loss journey, emphasizing bite-sized goals and written charts to track progress.

[24:48 ] Cheryl’s Writing Roadblock

Cheryl admits her book project stalled because the expectation feels too big — and the group helps her reframe it.

[27:39 ] Fear of Rejection as Hidden Cost

We unpack how “what if nothing comes of it” thinking can paralyze motivation before it even starts.

[30:01 ] Redefining Success

Karen reminds Cheryl that writing the book itself is an accomplishment, regardless of publishing outcomes.

[33:09 ] Practical Takeaway: Chart It Out

We outline a simple exercise: List expectation, value, and cost in three columns to see what needs adjusting.

[34:07 ] A Motivating Finale

Cheryl leaves the episode ready to try the chart method herself.