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Music as a Spiritual Practice with Toad the Wet Sprocket's Glen Phillips

Music as a Spiritual Practice with Toad the Wet Sprocket's Glen Phillips

Update: 2025-06-09
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What do you do when the thing you love—your art, your work, your creativity—starts feeling like a product? When the metrics of success get louder than the pulse of your own heart? In this episode, I sit down with Glen Phillips—lead singer of Toad the Wet Sprocket and a longtime Santa Barbara creative—for a conversation that meanders, deepens, and opens up space for something honest and healing. Glen shares how his music career took off at age 16, how he lost his way chasing the industry’s definition of “enough,” and how he found his way back—through community song, spiritual practice, Tuesday night yoga class, and a kind of effort that doesn’t grind, but flows.

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Music as a Spiritual Practice with Toad the Wet Sprocket's Glen Phillips

Music as a Spiritual Practice with Toad the Wet Sprocket's Glen Phillips