Jack is going off to law school. So the gang sits down to reminisce on his time at NDRN, share a few stories from behind the scenes, and hear a joke from Stephanie that gets a good laugh out of us.

Full transcript available at: https://www.ndrn.org/resource/ndr-august25/

Jack Rosen:

Like we have any sort of agenda for today, so just sort of going to get what I get. Turn that into a podcast, I guess.

Stephanie Flynt McEben:

Sure.

Michelle Bishop:

And that’s different from any other episode because…

Jack Rosen:

It’s not, it genuinely, I guess is not, I suppose at some point we’d have a guest and questions we thought we should ask them.

Michelle Bishop:

Oh.

Stephanie Flynt McEben:

I’m the guest and I have the questions. I don’t know.

Jack Rosen:

I’m pretty sure you’re not the guest.

Michelle Bishop:

It’s fine.

Stephanie Flynt McEben:

I’m pretty sure Jack is the guest.

Jack Rosen:

I’m sort of the guest.

Stephanie Flynt McEben:

What?

Michelle Bishop:

Wait what?

Stephanie Flynt McEben:

This episode is for Jack, isn’t it?

Jack Rosen:

It would be very funny if we just made it the Stephanie episode, even though we’ve done like two of those.

Stephanie Flynt McEben:

No. That would make me feel like such a bad chicken nugget.

Jack Rosen:

Even though we’ve already done-

Stephanie Flynt McEben:

This is all about you.

Michelle Bishop:

We already did a Stephanie wedding episode.

Jack Rosen:

We did a whole one about you getting married.

Stephanie Flynt McEben:

We’ve already done a bunch of episodes about me doing chicken-nuggety things like, come on.

Michelle Bishop:

Oh, that reminds me. My mom wants to hear about the legally blind Uber driver.

Stephanie Flynt McEben:

I forgot that I slipped that into an episode.

Michelle Bishop:

Yeah, she’s still listening and she has some follow-up questions.

Stephanie Flynt McEben:

I love this.

Michelle Bishop:

Well pack might have to address that at some point.

Jack Rosen:

Well, Stephanie, do you want to address it? I mean, let’s give the people what they want, I guess.

Stephanie Flynt McEben:

Yeah, I guess we can give the people what they want.

Michelle Bishop:

Yeah, we have one listener, so we should probably follow up on that for her.

Stephanie Flynt McEben:

Yeah, no, that makes sense. And Carol, thank you so much for being a dedicated, loyal listener to this wonderful podcast. So I will give a slighter Cliff Notes version just so it doesn’t take up the whole hour. So I am waiting for a car outside of, I can’t remember which Metro stop it was, but I had to go get something, and so I just figured I’d take an Uber home from the Metro because that particular Metro was a lot easier to get a car and it would only be a 20-minute ride. Okay, fine. This is what I’ll do. And so I get out of the Metro station, I’m trying to find my driver or whatever, yada, yada, and I can’t even remember his name. Maybe we should just call him Bob for anonymity. I am bad at saying that too. But yeah, so Bob pulls up in some sort of Toyota of some sort and I get in the car and we start driving and I noticed that I’m hearing a lot more horns, but I’m just not thinking about it because it’s rush hour DC traffic.

And then we started, he was like, “You know, I’ll be honest with you, I’m legally blind. I can only see out of one eye.” And I was like, “Oh, okay.” And I’m just trying to think of some of the things that he said, but he said different things that were essentially low vision, blind hacks or what have you. I’m trying to remember the specific hacks, but honestly, when he said, “I’m legally blind,” I was kind of like, “Huh, Jesus, take the wheel. Please get me home safe.” So it was a wild ride. No, that was not an intended pun but we can make it a pun.

Jack Rosen:

So you’re saying he might’ve had limited vision in the one eye?

Stephanie Flynt McEben:

Yeah, potentially. But, he said that he was only legally blind, he was legally blind or totally blind out of one eye, and then he could see out of the other eye just fine.

Jack Rosen:

You don’t sound convinced he could see just fine out of the other eye.

Stephanie Flynt McEben:

I’m not.

I don’t want to say it. Jack has to say it.

Jack Rosen:

I don’t want to say it. Michelle, kick us off as always.

Stephanie Flynt McEben:

Yeah, Michelle, you do that. Yeah.

Michelle Bishop:

Why is it always me? Okay.

Stephanie Flynt McEben:

Because you’re such a good public speaker and I’m really sad right now.

Jack Rosen:

We’re already dealing with enough change. I don’t want to deal with more. Could you please kick us off?

Michelle Bishop:

On this very special episode of National Disability Radio, we say goodbye to our pro-host extraordinaire, Jack Rosen, who is leaving NDRN to go to law school. Yay, Jack. We need an applause. We’ve never had an applause. Can we-

Stephanie Flynt McEben:

I know I keep saying that. Oh my gosh. But seriously, Jack, we’re going to miss you so, so, so much. And you have been an amazing pro-host with the most.

Jack Rosen:

I also have bad news. I definitely did not have enough time left to add in the applause, but…

Stephanie Flynt McEben:

Clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap clap, there. I’m trying not to, oh man. That made me sound facetious. I might have to-

Jack Rosen:

No, we’re keeping that in.

Michelle Bishop:

That’s definitely staying in. The part where Stephanie was very salty with you is definitely staying in. This is still the most professional podcast in the business.

Stephanie Flynt McEben:

Yes, it is.

Michelle Bishop:

We pay the big money for the good effects.

Stephanie Flynt McEben:

Yes.

Jack Rosen:

But thank you Michelle. I am sad to be leaving NDRN. It’s been five years here. I started back, for those who don’t know, I started back in 2020. It was actually pretty early COVID. It was May the fourth, because I’ll always remember it’s Star Wars Day.

Michelle Bishop:

Yes. You started-

Stephanie Flynt McEben:

May the fourth be with you.

Jack Rosen:

And it’s funny, NDRN was pretty much the last job interview I had at the start of COVID because nowhere else in the world was hiring. And I interviewed with Michelle and David Hutt and our former ED for a position on the voting team, and I told them at the time like, “Hey, my background is really in politics and comms. I’m a person with a disability. I have ADHD. And I’ve received services throughout my life for it, but I don’t know a ton about the disability rights movement, but I’m willing to learn.” And I got lucky enough that they decided to take a chance on me.