In this episode of Business Lunch, Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss discuss the recent transition from Epic Network to a more focused approach with the Scalable Company. They explore the challenges of running a business that has taken on a life of its own, the importance of making changes when a business no longer serves its founders, and the evolving landscape of course creation in the age of AI. The conversation emphasizes the need for entrepreneurs to take action, embrace change, and focus on what truly brings them joy in their business endeavors.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Context of Change

03:02 The Evolution of Epic Network

05:58 The Decision to Pivot: Why Change is Necessary

08:53 Understanding Business Ownership and Personal Happiness

11:48 The Importance of Knowing What to Exit To

14:56 The Future of Course and Information Businesses

21:05 Lessons Learned from the Epic Network Experience

30:35 The Reality of Course Consumption

33:10 Reflections on 2020 and Business Decisions

36:07 Navigating Change and Decision-Making

40:06 What Would Need to Be True?

43:12 Future Plans and New Directions

46:24 Final Thoughts and Messages to the Community

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