“No matter how much you prepare someone, it’s always a unique experience.”

In this insightful and nuanced episode, Natasja welcomes Jeanine Souren, a clinical psychologist, sexologist, and co-founder of the Experiential Training Institute. Jeanine brings her extensive expertise in trauma, couples, and family therapy to the evolving field of psychedelic-assisted treatment—bridging the scientific with the soulful.

🌀 In this conversation, we explore:

• What it means to journey as a therapist alongside your clients
  


• The mindset needed to hold diverse and sometimes unpredictable mental landscapes
  


• Why preparation and integration go far beyond checklists—they’re deeply values-driven
  


• The role of family dynamics and early imprinting in psychedelic outcomes
  


• When cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) may not serve the process
  


• How constellation work can enhance or complement psychedelic facilitation
  


• The subtle yet significant difference between MDMA and Psilocybin journeys
  


• Addressing the misunderstood theme of “Nothing happened”
  


• Group vs. individual psychedelic therapy—what works, and when
  


• Supporting intimacy, sexuality, and connection in psychedelic couple/family therapy
  


• Offering training to academic professionals stepping into this sacred space
  

Jeanine brings clarity, humility, and depth to the complex terrain of therapeutic work with expanded states—and reminds us that rites of passage are not just for clients, but for space holders, too.

📍 Connect with Jeanine and her offerings:
🌐 www.jeaninesouren.com

🌿 Resources & Next Steps:
→ Join the next Sacred Continuum live class (integration & embodiment support)
→ Explore upcoming retreats and mentoring opportunities

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📲 @natasja_pelgrom

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