Listen to the podcast or watch my interview with Nicholas Whitaker on Youtube. We discuss how he got into L&D, how that combined with wellness in his career and his personal experience in L&D over the years. Find out more about Nicholas and his work at nicholaswhitaker.com

“I notice a lot of leaders feel that helicoptering somebody in and doing a workshop on well-being and mindfulness will just instantly solve their well-being and mindfulness issues and then they wonder why people's well being scores are still declining and why people are still taking a lot of mental health leave…”

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