In this episode of the amplifiED podcast,* host Josh Crosson is joined by EdAllies Policy Director Matt Shaver and Legal Services Advocacy Project attorney Jess Webster to tackle a troubling and often hidden issue in Minnesota schools: the use of seclusion rooms. Often likened to solitary confinement, this controversial practice disproportionately impacts young children and students with disabilities.

Josh, Matt, and Jess unpack the data, the trauma caused by these practices, and the fight to protect kids through legislative change—including the recent ban on seclusion for children in pre-K through third grade. They also discuss the ongoing resistance to this progress and what’s at stake during the 2025 legislative session.

Hear accounts of the harm seclusion causes, the power dynamics in IEP meetings, and the challenges of implementing meaningful reforms in a divided government. Most importantly, learn how you can join the fight to ensure all kids have access to safe, supportive learning environments.

Tune in to discover how we can move from harmful practices to compassionate solutions—and why this fight is far from over.

*This episode discusses themes of child abuse, child injuries, and trauma. We feel these issues are critical to address as we discuss the many challenges facing students and families in our work toward justice. But we also know these discussions might be difficult for some listeners to hear. We ask that you please listen at your discretion, pause the episode if needed, and join us when you feel ready.