This is a matter of national defense and of homeland security. That’s how we’ve mainly discussed UAP throughout the series. But what about the sacred? In this transmission, we spend time with those who’ve been changed by the unknown before diving into the fray.

The rise and fall of To the Stars is almost as mysterious as the subject they are studying. We ask Tom DeLonge to shed some light.

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