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Not Just To Come, But To Come Undone

Not Just To Come, But To Come Undone

Update: 2022-10-12
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Having shown how hatred of sex is endemic to sex itself, in our second discussion of “Hatred of Sex” we trace some of the most influential thinkers today to show where our contemporary discourses on queerness has gotten us. Starting with Gayle Rubin’s thinking of sex that decoupled it from feminism's framework of gender and gender oppression, we look at how the slipperiness of sex was subsumed into the easier to deal with bounds of identity. We talk about porn wars, detransitioners, intersectionality, Freud, consent, the AIDS crisis, pushing bodies beyond their limits, and so much more. Come with us and, as Leo Bersani would say, embrace sex in all its deplorability—after all, we are here “not just to come, but to come undone.”


Show notes:

"Hatred of Sex" by Oliver Davis and Tim Dean

"Thinking Sex" by Gayle Rubin

"Kimberlé Crenshaw on Intersectionality, More than Two Decades Later"

"Is the Rectum a Grave?" by Leo Bersani

"The Gay Science" by Michel Foucault

"Relocating Marie Bonaparte’s Clitoris"

"Erotism: Death and Sensuality" by Georges Bataille


Intro song is "Bless You" by the Ink Spots

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Not Just To Come, But To Come Undone

Not Just To Come, But To Come Undone