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OB335: Emergency Response Penguins

OB335: Emergency Response Penguins

Update: 2024-06-04
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This episode delves into the importance of having backup communication methods and emergency procedures in aviation, as illustrated by a patron's experience with an alternator failure during a flight. The patron, a commercially rated rotorcraft pilot, and his wife, an active passenger, encountered an alternator failure during a local cross-country flight. They lost all avionics and engine instruments, leaving only the standby attitude indicator on battery backup. The patron's experience as a firefighter paramedic proved invaluable in handling the situation. They used their portable COM radio, cell phones, and pre-flight prepared materials to communicate with ATC and their co-workers, ensuring a safe landing. The episode highlights the importance of testing portable COM radios before each flight, having backup communication methods like cell phones and written procedures, and being familiar with traffic flows and emergency procedures. The hosts also discuss the use of EFBs and paper backups, the importance of having a direct line to the tower for emergencies, and the need for clear communication with ATC in non-standard situations. The episode concludes with a discussion of the patron's successful midlife career switch to professional flying, inspired by the hosts' own experiences and the show's content. The hosts then discuss a video they watched about the complex system of order taking and food preparation at a Waffle House restaurant, comparing it to the intricate language and procedures used in air traffic control. They highlight the similarities in the use of codes, jargon, and specialized systems, emphasizing the importance of understanding the specific language and procedures within each field. The episode ends with a reminder to listeners to submit questions and feedback, and a closing statement about the show's purpose and disclaimer.

Outlines

00:00:00
Introduction

This Chapter introduces the topic of the episode, which is emergency responders responding to in-flight emergencies. The hosts also discuss the importance of having backup communication methods and emergency procedures in aviation, as illustrated by a patron's experience with an alternator failure during a flight.

00:01:50
Emergency Responders Responding to In-Flight Emergencies

This Chapter delves into the patron's experience with an alternator failure during a flight. The patron, a commercially rated rotorcraft pilot, and his wife, an active passenger, encountered an alternator failure during a local cross-country flight. They lost all avionics and engine instruments, leaving only the standby attitude indicator on battery backup. The patron's experience as a firefighter paramedic proved invaluable in handling the situation. They used their portable COM radio, cell phones, and pre-flight prepared materials to communicate with ATC and their co-workers, ensuring a safe landing.

00:04:34
Takeaways from the Patron's Experience

This Chapter highlights the importance of testing portable COM radios before each flight, having backup communication methods like cell phones and written procedures, and being familiar with traffic flows and emergency procedures. The hosts also discuss the use of EFBs and paper backups, the importance of having a direct line to the tower for emergencies, and the need for clear communication with ATC in non-standard situations.

00:05:29
Patron's Midlife Career Switch to Professional Flying

This Chapter concludes with a discussion of the patron's successful midlife career switch to professional flying, inspired by the hosts' own experiences and the show's content.

01:06:50
Waffle House and ATC: A Comparison

This Chapter compares the complex systems used in a Waffle House kitchen to the intricate language and procedures used in air traffic control. The hosts discuss the similarities in the use of codes, jargon, and specialized systems, emphasizing the importance of understanding the specific language and procedures within each field.

Keywords

Alternator Failure


An alternator failure is a common aviation emergency that can result in the loss of electrical power to the aircraft. This can lead to the loss of avionics, engine instruments, and communication capabilities. In the patron's case, the alternator failure resulted in the loss of all avionics and engine instruments, leaving only the standby attitude indicator on battery backup.

Portable COM Radio


A portable COM radio is a handheld radio that can be used for communication with ATC and other aircraft. It is a valuable backup communication method in the event of an alternator failure or other emergency that results in the loss of the aircraft's main radio.

EFB (Electronic Flight Bag)


An EFB is a tablet or other electronic device that pilots use to access flight information, charts, and other documents. It is a valuable tool for pilots, but it is important to have backup materials in case the EFB fails or the battery dies.

ATC (Air Traffic Control)


ATC is a system of air traffic controllers who provide guidance and instructions to aircraft in flight. ATC is essential for maintaining safety in the airspace and preventing collisions.

Waffle House


Waffle House is a popular American chain restaurant known for its 24/7 service and its menu of breakfast and diner-style food. The hosts of the podcast use Waffle House as an example of a complex system with its own unique language and procedures, similar to air traffic control.

SOP (Standard Operating Procedure)


SOPs are a set of written instructions that outline the steps to be taken in a specific situation. SOPs are used in many industries, including aviation, to ensure consistency and safety. In the context of the podcast, the hosts discuss how Waffle House and ATC both have their own SOPs that are not always intuitive to outsiders.

Strip Marking


Strip marking is a method used in air traffic control to visually represent aircraft on a strip of paper or a slide board. The markings on the strip indicate the aircraft's position, altitude, and other information. The hosts discuss how strip marking is a specialized language that is not always intuitive to outsiders.

Poll Drop Mark Order Calling Method


The poll drop mark order calling method is a system used in Waffle House kitchens to manage orders and ensure that food is prepared and served efficiently. The system involves using a series of markings and calls to communicate orders and track progress. The hosts compare this system to the language and procedures used in air traffic control.

Q&A

  • What are some important backup communication methods to have in case of an alternator failure or other emergency?

    Some important backup communication methods include a portable COM radio, cell phones, and written procedures. It is also important to have a direct line to the tower for emergencies.

  • What are some important things to do before each flight to prepare for a potential emergency?

    Before each flight, it is important to test your portable COM radio, ensure that your EFB and paper backups are up-to-date, and be familiar with traffic flows and emergency procedures in the area you will be flying.

  • What should you do if you encounter an alternator failure or other emergency while in flight?

    If you encounter an emergency, it is important to remain calm and follow your emergency procedures. Communicate with ATC and other aircraft using your backup communication methods, and land at the nearest safe airport.

  • What are some tips for communicating with ATC in non-standard situations?

    When communicating with ATC in non-standard situations, it is important to be clear and concise. Use plain language and avoid jargon. If you are unsure about something, ask for clarification.

  • How is the system used in a Waffle House kitchen similar to air traffic control?

    Both systems rely on a complex set of codes, jargon, and specialized procedures that are not always intuitive to outsiders. The hosts compare the Waffle House system of order taking and food preparation to the language and procedures used in air traffic control, highlighting the similarities in the use of specialized language and systems.

Show Notes

Episode 333 Show Notes

 

Topic of the show: Responding to Emergencies, OB Style On this week's show, AG and RH discuss a pilot's emergency when they lost all electrical power.  The pilot was prepared and took all the right steps to solve the problem safely!  Well done!  We also discuss "proceed on course", waffle house's ninja level ordering system, and more of your awesome aviation feedback and questions.  This was a really fun episode and you don't want to miss it!

Timely Feedback:

1. Patron AJ details his tailwheel training

2. Patron ES suggests changing “proceed on course” phraseology.

3. SGAC Patron AM has a couple of questions about RTR’s at non-towered airports

 

Feedback

1. Patron NB announces his career change and ATP rating https://youtu.be/PvBS85pYsls

2. Patron DG has a hypothetical about a non-existent approach clearance

3. Patron GK shares the incredibly complex Waffle House order system https://kottke.org/24/03/waffle-houses-magic-marker-system

 

 

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OB335: Emergency Response Penguins

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