Producer & friend of the pod Oliver Slate-Greene (he/him) joins Wesley (he/him) to talk Firsts! They cover such topics as:

+ The first time Oliver told someone he was a boy

+ Wesley remembers the first time he met Oliver

+ Pee Wee Herman, a shared first gender root and, arguably, a transgender icon

You can find out more about Oliver at www.oliverslategreene.com and listen to his podcast, Digital Mystic wherever you listen to podcasts. 

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Special thanks to Emily Bate (she/her) for the perfect theme song and Charley Parden (he/they) for writing the iconic lyrics

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