When Suzy Walker began a mindfulness course, she didn’t expect it to unearth a lifetime of suppressed grief. But in conversation with Danusia Malina-Derben, host of Parents Who Think, what unfolds is a raw, honest reflection on what happens when we stop running, and start listening.

Danusia and Suzy explore the seductive trap of busyness, the spiritual disorientation of stillness, and the hidden grief we mask with productivity. Together, they unpack what it means to be present in a culture that values performance over peace, and why women, especially mothers, struggle with simply being.

From Whitstable beach meditations to missed flights and social media audits, this is a fiercely intelligent, intimate exchange between two women unafraid to question what success, selfhood, and service really mean. A reminder that we don’t have to do more to be more, and that sometimes the most radical move is to be still.

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Credits:

• Hosted by Danusia Malina-Derben

• Edited, Mixed + Mastered by Marie Cruz

• Cover art by Anthony Oram