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This episode, we look at Oprah’s love/hate — or maybe hate/love — relationship with hip-hop. We break down two key moments: a 1990 episode about rap music featuring Ice-T, Tipper Gore, and Juan Williams; and then Oprah’s very warm interview with Jay-Z about a decade later.

Our guest for this episode is C. Brandon Ogbunu, Assistant Professor in the Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology at Yale University.

You Get A Podcast is hosted and executive produced by Kellie Carter Jackson, with co-host Leah Wright Rigueur.

You Get A Podcast is produced by Roulette Productions. Executive Producer Jody Avirgan. Producer Nina Earnest. Artwork by Jonathan Conda.

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