When life feels overwhelming, how do you get your power back? In this candid conversation, Jess asks Osher Günsberg this Big Question, and together they unpack the universal experience of feeling stuck, powerless, or consumed by challenges. From recognising overwhelm as the crucial first step, to the phrase “So what? Now what?” as a way forward, Osher shares how even the smallest actions can restore a sense of agency and clarity.

Drawing on his own journey through fame, sobriety, and mental health struggles, Osher opens up about the tools that have helped him, including Acceptance Commitment Therapy, embracing discomfort, and noticing emotions before they spiral. This is a conversation about finding strength in difficult moments, letting go of external validation, and learning how to shift from overwhelm into empowered action.

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LINKS:

• Osher's book 'So What? Now What? is available wherever you get your books

• If you loved this chat with Osher we think you'll love Jess's earlier conversation with him here 
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CREDITS:
Host: Jessica Rowe
Guest: Osher Günsberg
Executive Producer: Nic McClure
Audio Producer: Nat Marshall 
Digital Content Producer: Zoe Panaretos

The Jess Rowe Big Talk Show acknowledges the Gadigal people, Traditional Custodians of the land on which we recorded this podcast, and pay our respects to their Elders past, present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders peoples here today.

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