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PMS 2.0 1210 - Monday Night Football Recap, Karl Ravech, Shams Charania, Aaron Rodgers, Everything DB

PMS 2.0 1210 - Monday Night Football Recap, Karl Ravech, Shams Charania, Aaron Rodgers, Everything DB

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This podcast delves into a variety of sports topics, starting with a recap of Monday Night Football games and the Detroit Lions' impressive victory over the Seattle Seahawks. The hosts then pay tribute to baseball legend Pete Rose and discuss the Mets' playoff clinch and the Padres vs. Braves Wild Card series preview. They also touch upon Shohei Ohtani's potential return to pitching in the postseason and the Dodgers' prospects. The conversation then shifts to the NBA, with discussions about training camp, the Julius Randle trade, and the upcoming season preview. The podcast features a special guest appearance by Aaron Rodgers, who discusses his experiences with the New York Jets, his thoughts on the NFL's celebration penalties, and his perspective on the game. He also shares insights into his offseason activities, his approach to quarterback development, and his thoughts on the Rams' all-in strategy. The podcast concludes with discussions about Devonte Adams's move to the Raiders, Rishi Rice's injury update, and the importance of mentality in football. The hosts also share their experiences with pre-game interviews, the unpredictable weather at MetLife Stadium, and the unique traditions of high school football. They also discuss the evolution of lights in football, the bold font controversy on X, and the exceptional performances of Travis Hunter and Fred Warner. The podcast also features a basketball shooting challenge, where Foxy attempts a long-distance shot for a chance to win $500 for 30 viewers. The hosts also discuss the importance of being a good friend, the power of perspective, the role of scoreboards in life, and the importance of unity. They conclude by announcing an upcoming interview with Cody Rhodes, the American Nightmare.

Outlines

00:00:00
Sports Talk and Recap

The podcast begins with introductions and a quick recap of Monday Night Football games, including the Dolphins' struggles without Tua and the Titans' win over the Dolphins. The hosts also discuss the Detroit Lions' impressive victory over the Seattle Seahawks, highlighting Jared Goff's perfect 18-for-18 passing performance and his touchdown catch.

00:01:52
Remembering Pete Rose and the Mets' Playoff Clinch

The hosts pay tribute to baseball legend Pete Rose, who passed away recently. They share stories about Rose's competitive spirit and his impact on the sport. They then discuss the Mets' playoff berth, secured by Francisco Lindor's game-winning home run in the ninth inning. They praise Lindor's performance and his humble demeanor.

00:28:27
Padres vs. Braves Wild Card Series Preview and Shohei Ohtani's Postseason Status

The hosts preview the Padres vs. Braves Wild Card series, discussing the Braves' pitching woes and the Padres' strong home-field advantage. They also discuss Shohei Ohtani's potential return to pitching in the postseason and the Dodgers' chances of making a deep run.

00:35:44
By-Weeks in the Playoffs and NBA Training Camp

The hosts debate the benefits and drawbacks of by-weeks in the MLB playoffs, considering the potential for rust versus rest. They then discuss the start of NBA training camp and the major trade that sent Julius Randle to the New York Knicks.

00:39:58
NBA Season Preview and Key Storylines

The hosts preview the upcoming NBA season, highlighting key storylines such as LeBron and Bronny James' debut, Kyrie Irving's impact on the Mavericks, and the Denver Nuggets' salary cap concerns.

00:43:04
Cowboys vs. Giants Game Recap and Devanta Adams Trade Rumors

The hosts recap the Cowboys' victory over the Giants and discuss the growing trade rumors surrounding Devanta Adams.

00:47:24
Port Workers Strike and Its Potential Impact

The hosts discuss the ongoing port workers strike and its potential impact on the economy, highlighting the power of the union and the importance of reaching a deal.

00:52:36
Titans vs. Dolphins Game Recap and Will Levis' Injury

The hosts recap the Titans' victory over the Dolphins, discussing Will Levis' shoulder injury and the Dolphins' struggles without Tua.

00:56:35
Lions vs. Seahawks Game Recap and Ben Johnson's Offensive Masterpiece

The hosts recap the Lions' impressive victory over the Seahawks, praising Ben Johnson's offensive scheme and the Lions' balanced attack.

01:00:05
Aaron Rodgers Joins the Show

The hosts welcome Aaron Rodgers to the show and discuss the NFL's recent crackdown on celebration penalties, particularly those involving weapons.

01:09:38
NFL Weaponry and Muzzle Discipline

The conversation starts with a humorous discussion about potential weapons in the NFL, specifically focusing on the importance of \"muzzle discipline\" when celebrating first downs. The group then delves into the NFL's scrutiny of potential weapons and the challenges of celebrating wins in a security-conscious environment.

01:11:23
Aaron Rodgers' Post-Game Blues and the Internet's Memes

Aaron Rodgers discusses his post-game emotions after a tough loss to the Denver Broncos, acknowledging the internet's reaction and the memes circulating about his \"miserable\" sideline demeanor. He emphasizes the importance of perspective, recognizing that there's a lot of football left in the season.

01:12:34
Embracing the Weather and Its Impact on Performance

Rodgers reflects on the impact of the weather on the game, acknowledging that the conditions were challenging for both teams. He draws a parallel to his experience in Green Bay, where he learned to embrace the cold and use it to his advantage. He believes that the Jets need to adopt a similar mindset and turn the weather into a weapon.

01:13:34
Cadence, Anomaly, and the Importance of Staying on Sides

The conversation shifts to Aaron Rodgers' cadence and the recent controversy surrounding it. He explains that he's used his cadence throughout his career and that it's a weapon that needs to be executed flawlessly. He emphasizes the importance of staying on sides and not letting outside noise affect their performance.

01:16:38
The Art of the Hug and Navigating Media Scrutiny

The discussion turns to the \"hug\" controversy surrounding Aaron Rodgers and his teammate, Saul. Rodgers explains that he's learned to adapt to different hugging styles and that he's a fast learner. He acknowledges that everything he does is scrutinized in New York and that he's learned to ignore the noise and focus on his relationships with his teammates.

01:19:07
The Significance of OTAs and the Power of Perspective

The conversation touches on Aaron Rodgers' trip to Egypt during the offseason and the significance of OTAs. He emphasizes that OTAs matter, even though they're often overlooked. He shares his perspective on the importance of living life and not letting outside noise affect his decisions.

01:22:28
London Trip, Danish Concepts, and the \"Spank\" Debate

The conversation shifts to Aaron Rodgers' upcoming trip to London for an international game. The group engages in a humorous discussion about Danish concepts, including the \"spank\" debate, and whether Rodgers is more of a \"spank\" guy or a \"tough Pittsburgh\" type.

01:24:10
International Games, Travel, and the Future of the NFL

Aaron Rodgers reflects on the possibility that the upcoming London game might be his last international game. He discusses the challenges of traveling overseas for football and the potential for the NFL to expand its international presence. He shares his experience at a soccer game at Wembley and the fun aspects of the trip.

01:26:51
Berkeley Bound: Game Day Excitement and Local Recommendations

The conversation turns to Aaron Rodgers' upcoming game in Berkeley, California. The group discusses the excitement surrounding the game and the unique aspects of Berkeley as a college town. Aaron Rodgers provides recommendations for local staples, including Top Dog and Liberita.

01:31:07
Murder Mysteries, Documentaries, and the Book Club

The conversation takes a detour into a discussion about murder mysteries and documentaries, specifically mentioning the Scott Peterson case and the Zodiac Killer. Aaron Rodgers also mentions his book club and the books he's currently reading, including \"The Seven Spiritual Laws of Success.\""

01:32:56
Vikings Defense, Brian Flores, and the Art of Disguise

The conversation shifts to the Minnesota Vikings defense and their defensive coordinator, Brian Flores. Aaron Rodgers praises Flores' defensive scheme and highlights the Vikings' ability to disguise their pressures. He also shares his admiration for Harrison Phillips and other key players on the Vikings defense.

01:35:17
Devonte Adams Trade Rumors and the Heat of the Internet

The conversation touches on the ongoing trade rumors surrounding Devonte Adams and the Las Vegas Raiders. Aaron Rodgers acknowledges the internet's speculation and the potential impact on the New York Jets. He also discusses the potential for a reunion with Adams in the future.

01:37:35
Jousting with Coordinators and the Mutual Respect of the Game

Aaron Rodgers discusses his interactions with opposing defensive coordinators, acknowledging that there's often a mutual respect between them. He shares anecdotes about his experiences with Rod Marinelli, Wink Martindale, and Vance Joseph, highlighting the competitive spirit and camaraderie that exists within the NFL.

01:38:29
Aaron Jones, Culture Change, and the Power of Glue Guys

The conversation turns to Aaron Jones, a former teammate of Aaron Rodgers. Rodgers praises Jones' character, work ethic, and impact on the Packers' culture. He emphasizes the importance of \"glue guys\" who are both talented and positive influences in the locker room.

01:41:00
The Value of Patience and the Rarity of Rodgers' Situation

The conversation delves into the topic of quarterback development and the importance of patience. Rodgers acknowledges that his situation, where he was able to sit behind a Hall of Famer and learn before becoming a starter, is very rare. He emphasizes the need for owners, fans, and coaches to be patient with young quarterbacks and allow them time to develop.

01:44:27
The Rams' All-In Strategy and the Importance of Championship Dreams

The conversation concludes with a discussion about the Los Angeles Rams' all-in strategy and the importance of championship aspirations. Rodgers acknowledges that the Rams' approach, which involved mortgaging draft capital for immediate success, can lead to thin years but ultimately resulted in a Super Bowl victory. He emphasizes that the pursuit of a championship is a valid strategy, even if it comes with risks.

01:55:04
Devonte Adams's Move to the Raiders and Rishi Rice's Injury Update

The discussion begins with Devonte Adams's decision to join the Raiders, leaving the Packers. The conversation explores the challenges he faces with a new quarterback and the potential impact of his move on his career. The hosts then discuss the latest news on Rishi Rice's injury, highlighting the uncertainty surrounding the extent of his injury and the possibility of a return this season.

02:14:38
Pre-Game Interviews and the Importance of Mentality in Football

The hosts express their dislike for pre-game interviews in the NFL, arguing that they are forced and often unproductive, especially for players who are trying to focus on the game. They then emphasize the importance of mental preparation for football players, particularly during the National Anthem, which marks the transition from pre-game rituals to the intensity of the game.

02:17:43
Aaron Rodgers's Commitment to Football and MetLife Stadium's Weather Challenges

The hosts discuss Aaron Rodgers's dedication to football, highlighting his all-in approach and the sacrifices he makes for the game, including delaying starting a family. They then share their experiences with the unpredictable weather at MetLife Stadium, noting how it can negatively impact the game atmosphere and create a \"shit hole\" environment.

02:20:01
Sleepy Hollow High School's Football Game and the Cost of Lights

The hosts discuss a high school football game they witnessed, where the Headless Horseman mascot made a memorable entrance, highlighting the unique traditions and atmosphere of high school football. They then discuss the high cost of installing lights for high school football fields, highlighting the financial challenges faced by some schools and the importance of community support for the sport.

02:24:01
The Evolution of Lights in Football and Alabama's Lights Show

The hosts reflect on the evolution of lights in football, comparing the old-fashioned incandescent bulbs to the modern LED lights, which offer greater flexibility and visual effects. They then praise Alabama's impressive lights show during football games, highlighting its energy and entertainment value, and suggesting that other stadiums should adopt similar practices.

02:27:23
The Bold Font Controversy on X and Blocking People

The hosts discuss the recent controversy surrounding the bold font feature on X (formerly Twitter), expressing their dislike for its overuse and the impact it had on the platform's aesthetics. They then share their perspectives on blocking people on X, emphasizing their personal preferences and the reasons behind their decisions, highlighting the subjective nature of online interactions.

02:30:13
Travis Hunter's Impact on College Football and His Future in the NFL

The hosts discuss Travis Hunter's exceptional performance as a two-way player in college football, highlighting his potential for greatness and the impact he has on the game. They then speculate on Travis Hunter's future in the NFL, considering his potential as a first-round draft pick and the likelihood of him being selected by a team in need of a quarterback.

02:31:42
Fred Warner's Defensive Prowess and the Pressure on Quarterbacks

The hosts analyze Fred Warner's exceptional defensive play, highlighting his awareness, instincts, and ability to read the quarterback, making him a top defender in the NFL. They then discuss the pressure faced by quarterbacks in the NFL, particularly when they are backed up and have limited time to make a play, emphasizing the importance of composure and decision-making.

02:34:53
Kirby Joseph's Interception and the Detroit Lions' Draft Graphics

The hosts analyze Kirby Joseph's game-winning interception, highlighting his instincts, ball skills, and ability to make a play in a crucial moment, showcasing his talent as a defensive back. They then discuss the Detroit Lions' creative use of draft graphics, highlighting their unique and entertaining approach to showcasing their draft picks, adding a fun element to the NFL draft process.

02:37:43
Pete Rose's Legacy and Jamar Chase's Run After Catch

The hosts pay tribute to Pete Rose, a legendary baseball player, highlighting his hustle, competitive spirit, and impact on the game, emphasizing his enduring legacy as a Cincinnati Reds icon. They then analyze Jamar Chase's exceptional run after catch ability, highlighting his strength, agility, and ability to break tackles, making him a dangerous offensive weapon in the NFL.

02:41:54
The Bengals' Defense and Baby Oil and the Detroit Lions' Offense

The hosts discuss the Bengals' defense and the alleged use of baby oil by players to enhance their ability to break tackles, highlighting the controversy surrounding the practice and its impact on the game. They then praise the Detroit Lions' offense, highlighting their balance, play-calling, and the emergence of young players, making them a formidable force in the NFL.

02:43:54
Constance Pogano's Sumo Wrestling and the Indiana Hoosiers' Football Success

The hosts discuss Constance Pogano, a female sumo wrestler, highlighting her strength, athleticism, and potential for greatness in the sport, showcasing her unique talent and dedication. They then discuss the Indiana Hoosiers' football team's recent success, highlighting their undefeated record and the impact of coach Tom Allen's leadership, emphasizing the team's resurgence and potential for a strong season.

02:51:12
Sports Talk and Giveaways

The podcast starts with a discussion about sports, specifically IU basketball and the Tigers baseball team. The hosts talk about the recent performance of the teams and the upcoming games. They also mention a giveaway for viewers who participate in a challenge.

02:51:45
Foxy's Shot Challenge

The hosts introduce a challenge where Foxy, a basketball player, attempts a long-distance shot. If he makes the shot, 30 viewers will win $500. Foxy successfully makes the shot, and the hosts announce the giveaway details.

02:55:15
The Importance of Being a Good Friend and the Power of Perspective

The hosts discuss the importance of being a good friend and how small acts of kindness can make a big difference in someone's life. They encourage listeners to be kind to others and share positive messages. They then talk about the importance of perspective and how different people can have vastly different opinions on the same event. They emphasize the need to be respectful of others' viewpoints, even if they differ from our own.

02:57:20
The Role of Scoreboards in Life and We're in This Together

The hosts discuss the role of scoreboards in life, both in sports and in other areas. They argue that having a scoreboard helps us to understand who to take seriously and who to ignore. They then reiterate the importance of unity and remind listeners that we are all in this together. They emphasize the need to support each other and work together to overcome challenges.

03:00:57
Cody Rhodes Interview and Final Thoughts

The hosts announce that Cody Rhodes, the American Nightmare, will be a guest on the show tomorrow. They express excitement about the interview and anticipate a lively discussion. They wrap up the podcast by reminding listeners to be kind to each other and to remember that we are all in this together. They encourage listeners to share positive messages and to support each other.

Keywords

On-site Kick


A special teams play in American football where the kicking team kicks off from the 20-yard line after a safety. The ball must be kicked out of the hand and cannot be grounded.

Motor City Muscle Tarps


A reference to the Detroit Lions' new blue helmets and the tarps that cover the seats in Ford Field, creating a unique and visually striking look.

Play Action Pass


A play in American football where the quarterback fakes a handoff to a running back, then throws the ball to a receiver. This play is designed to deceive the defense and create opportunities for big plays.

Salary Cap


A limit on the amount of money that a team can spend on player salaries in the NBA. Teams must stay under the salary cap to avoid penalties.

Derek Rose


A former NBA point guard known for his explosive scoring ability and his time with the Chicago Bulls. He recently announced his retirement from the league.

Longshoreman's Union


A labor union that represents workers who load and unload cargo at ports. The union is currently engaged in a strike that could have significant economic consequences.

Grandfathered In


A term used to describe a rule or practice that is allowed to continue even though it is no longer permitted for new cases. In the NFL, some celebrations that were previously allowed may be grandfathered in for certain players.

Muzzle Discipline


A term used in the NFL to describe the importance of controlling the direction of a player's hands and arms during celebrations, particularly when celebrating first downs, to avoid any potential misinterpretations as a weapon.

Q&A

  • What are the Dolphins' chances of turning things around without Tua Tagovailoa?

    The Dolphins' offense has struggled significantly without Tua, and it's unclear if they can compete until he returns. Their chances of turning things around depend heavily on Tua's health and his ability to regain his form.

  • How does the trade of Julius Randle to the Knicks impact both teams?

    The Knicks gain a talented and experienced forward in Randle, who could help them contend for a playoff spot. The Timberwolves gain salary cap flexibility and a chance to rebuild their roster around Anthony Edwards.

  • What are the potential consequences of the port workers strike?

    The strike could have a significant impact on the economy, as it could disrupt the flow of goods and lead to shortages. The strike could also lead to job losses and higher prices for consumers.

  • What are the key storylines to watch for in the upcoming NBA season?

    Key storylines include LeBron and Bronny James' debut, Kyrie Irving's impact on the Mavericks, the Denver Nuggets' salary cap concerns, and the potential for a Celtics repeat.

  • What are the chances of Devanta Adams being traded before the trade deadline?

    The trade rumors surrounding Devanta Adams are heating up, especially after the Raiders' recent win. It's possible that Adams could be traded before the deadline, but it's also possible that he remains with the Raiders.

  • What are the benefits and drawbacks of by-weeks in the MLB playoffs?

    By-weeks can give teams a chance to rest and recover from injuries, but they can also lead to rust and a loss of momentum. The impact of by-weeks depends on the team's situation and their ability to maintain their form.

  • What are some of the challenges of celebrating wins in the NFL, given the heightened security concerns?

    The NFL is very security-conscious, and players need to be mindful of their celebrations to avoid any potential misinterpretations as a weapon. This can make it difficult to celebrate wins in a spontaneous and enthusiastic way.

  • How does Aaron Rodgers view the importance of OTAs, and how does he balance his personal life with his football commitments?

    Aaron Rodgers believes that OTAs are important for building chemistry and preparing for the season, even though they're often overlooked. He emphasizes the importance of living life and not letting outside noise affect his decisions, even when it comes to his offseason activities.

  • What are some of the key characteristics of a \"glue guy\" in the NFL, and why are they so valuable to a team?

    Glue guys are players who are positive influences in the locker room, often leaders who bring the team together and set a high standard for performance. They contribute to a strong team culture and a winning mentality, making them valuable assets to any team.

Show Notes

On today's show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk and the boys recap last night's doubleheader of Monday Night Football action with the Lions offense cruising behind a perfect Jared Goff performance & the Titans beating the Dolphins after Mason Rudolph subbed in at Quarterback for an injured Will Levis. ESPN's MLB Play-by-Play Announcer Karl Ravech joined the progrum in the first hour to honor the legendary Pete Rose & preview the MLB Playoffs starting today. Also in the first hour, NBA Insider Shams Charania also stopped by to discuss the blockbuster trade sending Karl Anthony-Towns from the Timberwolves to the New York Knicks for Julius Randle & Donte DiVincenzo, the media day debut of the Bron & Bronny duo for the Lakers, and more. In the second hour, 4x MVP, Super Bowl Champion/MVP, & starting quarterback for the New York Jets, Aaron Rodgers joins the show to chat about the NFL's tightening officiating on celebrations, the Jets' Sunday loss to the Broncos & the subsequent conversation around his cadences, his relationship with HC Robert Saleh, a look ahead to traveling to London to take on the Minnesota Vikings, and much more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN's YouTube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We'll see you tomorrow. Cheers. 

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PMS 2.0 1210 - Monday Night Football Recap, Karl Ravech, Shams Charania, Aaron Rodgers, Everything DB

PMS 2.0 1210 - Monday Night Football Recap, Karl Ravech, Shams Charania, Aaron Rodgers, Everything DB

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