PT551 – Tripped: The Connection Between LSD, Nazi Germany, and MKUltra, with Norman Ohler
Update: 2024-09-27
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In this episode, Joe interviews award-winning novelist and screenwriter, Norman Ohler.
Following in the footsteps of "Blitzed: Drugs in the Third Reich," his newest book, "Tripped: Nazi Germany, the CIA, and the Dawn of the Psychedelic Age," tells the story of how the Nazi’s passion for methamphetamine turned into a curiosity about LSD, and how their experiments with trying to harness LSD as a truth drug eventually led to the CIA continuing their research under their MKUltra program. The book came about from trying to understand why LSD never became medicine – a question posed by his father, when discussing how LSD could help with his wife’s progressing Alzheimer’s symptoms.
He discusses:
- His path to becoming a “gonzo historian” and how his early psychedelic research was inspired by a friend’s discovery of methamphetamine tablets from the 40s
- Henry Beecher’s LSD experiments with students at Harvard, and how researchers often didn’t know they were contributing to MKUltra
- His recent appearances on The Joe Rogan Experience and Jesse Watters Primetime
- His mother’s experience with microdosing LSD and why police showed up at his father’s door with a warrant
- Why he believes psychedelics will be legalized in the U.S. in the next 10 years
and more!
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