On this episode of The Masking Tapes, host Carolina Hidalgo-McCabe sits down with Fran Salazar and Marcos Posadas, the Yes Men, for a conversation about their friendship, therapy, and an unexpected night with the male rugby team in college. Together, they unpack topics such as emotional gold digging, joining the workplace, and building a strong friendship. This is the first part of a two-part conversation.

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Fran Salazar, originally from Colombia, is a young development professional based in Bogota. Marcos Posadas, originally from Argentina, is an engineer based in Colorado.

Carolina Hidalgo-McCabe, your host, has local, national, and global organizing and programming experience. Her expertise lies in communications, community mobilization, and masculinity studies.