Enjoy my conversation, recorded in September, 2017 with The Rev. Dr. Tim Conkling.



Tim is a mentor to me, as a musician, as a man, and as a husband - all of which I've failed at spectacularly at some point in my life.



But it's the mentor that guides you through those failures and allows you to envision success in spite of them.



Tim has stories that you won't believe, and I knew when he visited our home in NC in Sep. '17 that I just had to sit down with him and get at least a few of them on record.



We talked about a wide variety of things, including:



Cultural differences between the U.S. and other parts of the world



A healthy attitude about music, and what an audience really wants from the performer.



The hair-raising story of helping a Chinese citizen defect to the United States. 



And much more...



As promised in the episode, here are Pastor Tim's 12 Rules for Christian Living. Even if you're not a Christian, I think you'll find a lot of value in them.



Enjoy this cool bonus episode!