Justin catches up with his old internet friend Paul Jarvis. Today, Paul co-founded Fathom Analytics with Jack Ellis: a simple alternative to Google Analytics. Paul is also the author of the book "Company of One," which has influenced a whole generation of indie entrepreneurs (and has been reviewed by Cal Newport, Chris Guillebeau, Ben Chestnut, Tiago Forte, and more). Previously, Justin and Paul did a weekly mastermind, where they supported and encouraged each other around our indie businesses. They decided to do a catch-up call and recorded it so you could listen in. 👍

Highlights:

• (00:10 ) - Intro


• (02:15 ) - Being off the internet


• (03:53 ) - What's a typical day for Paul?


• (06:16 ) - Looking back at our Mastermind call


• (08:03 ) - There's no beginning and no end


• (10:31 ) - Things that are out of your control affect your business


• (13:03 ) - Does Justin's surfing metaphor make sense to a surfer?


• (16:06 ) - How would you start an indie business in 2023?


• (22:00 ) - You've got to get in motion


• (25:03 ) - Using products in your category for a long time


• (27:48 ) - Is there still any room in Saas?


• (31:51 ) - The act of making the bet


• (38:40 ) - Is freelancing still viable in 2023?


• (42:50 ) - Company design is lifestyle design


• (44:55 ) - Worrying about being stagnant


• (47:15 ) - How do you handle customer feature requests?


• (52:03 ) - It's ok to be late to a shift in the market


• (58:19 ) - Caring is an indie advantage


• (01:05:00 ) - Collaboration is what gets us anywhere

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• Fathom Analytics (get $10 off)
• Book: Company of One
• Article: How to Start a Mastermind
• Wayback Machine: Mint Analytics
• Article: Why we moved from courses to SaaS
• Self-Publishing Hangout: Paul Jarvis, Nathan Barry, Sacha Greif, Justin Jackson

• Pascal from sharpen.page


• Rewardful.com


• Greg Park


• Mitchell Davis from sixsides.co


• Marcel Fahle, wearebold.af


• Bill Condo (@mavrck)


• Ward from MemberSpace.com


• Evandro Sasse


• Austin Loveless


• Michael Sitver


• Colin Gray


• Dave Giunta