So here's the deal: we're in our 40's and still don't really understand how to put on makeup. We realize that this isn't the most cutting edge of pressing issues to discuss BUT HERE US OUT - we have a feeling a lot of moms don't understand makeup just like us, and we also feel like a lot of moms don't want to watch a YouTube tutorial by a 19 year old.

We decided to bring our friend and internationally acclaimed makeup artist (and mom!) Katelyn Simkins to our podcast table and grill here on all the things we've been dying to know but were afraid to ask. Is lip liner still a thing? What's up with lash serum? (Tracey heard it can make you go blind or change your eye color or something.) What product makes us look old? What product makes us look young? Why does Katelyn love castor oil so much?

It's a riveting hour of clueless femininity and in the end we learned a lot. We hope you do too!

As always, we'd love to hear your feedback and thoughts. Email us anytime at pumpanddumpshowATgmail.com, leave a rating or comment on your podcast app, or tell us IRL and come see us at a show!

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Shayna and Tracey have been friends since the 8th grade – that’s over 25 years. After college, they each moved to separate coasts for a decade. They were reunited when they decided to leave big city life and settle down with their families in Denver, Colorado and Facebook told them their daughters are 3 weeks apart. After several play dates, some more childbirth, some unsuccessful pumping, and the overwhelming nature of mommy community boards, The Pump and Dump Show was born.

The show launched in 2012 in a bar in Northwest Denver and quickly grew to a bi-monthly, local staple for new moms to have a night out. In 2014, Shayna and Tracey took The Pump and Dump Show on its first national tour and continue to perform every month to audiences nationwide.

For tour updates and more shenanigans, follow Shay and Tracey at:

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThePumpAndDump/ Instagram: https://instagram.com/ThePumpAndDumpShow/Tour schedule: https://www.thepumpanddumpshow.com/tour-dates