Today, Kate chats with Natalie, a pod friend! Natalie is a primary school kitchen garden teacher! Natalie loves cooking and loves to share her love of food with her family and students she teaches ... Natalie is a baker at heart and is writing a picture cookbook! So today, they talk about food! Christmas food, as the podvent luck would have it! They talk about their love of the great Australian bake off. Natalie's house has an amazing Christmas elf that makes cinnamon scrolls for the 1st Day of December, even gluten-free ones!

They chat about food and Christmas and go over the usual podvent time. But hey it is Christmas, it is supposed to be joyful. Natalie talks about Sophie Hanson and her book basket by the door. And christobels spicy nuts.

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