In Part 2 of our deep dive into Project 2025, we are turning our focus to two more health agencies: the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the National Institutes of Health (NIH). Both have new directors, and both are making quiet but powerful moves that could shape public health in ways most folks aren’t even aware of. From cuts to health equity research that they categorize as "woke" to state level cuts causing delays in public health programs, these shifting priorities seem more political than scientific. On the surface, it’s all being branded as “reform and reduction of waste.” But when you dig a little deeper? It starts to look a lot like rolling back decades of work on health and environmental justice. 

In this episode, Dr. B Fran breaks down the recommendations being proposed for these agencies under Project 2025—and how many of them run counter to core public health principles. From sidelining prevention to eliminating a focus on structural drivers of health, these proposed changes aren’t just policy tweaks—they could have real consequences for millions of people, especially those already facing steep marginaliza. Let’s talk about what’s at stake, and why it matters now more than ever.

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