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RTD’s CEO Debra Johnson on Lagging Ridership, a Looming Budget Crunch, and Denver’s Car Culture

RTD’s CEO Debra Johnson on Lagging Ridership, a Looming Budget Crunch, and Denver’s Car Culture

Update: 2025-12-03
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Denver’s public transit agency RTD has had a rough couple of years. Almost a full year of track maintenance and slowdowns led to a nearly 20% decline in light rail ridership, but ridership across the network overall is down, too. With even more light rail maintenance expected in the next few years, RTD’s budget is projected to hit multi-billion deficits in the early 2030s. So what’s the plan to get back on track? And if the answer is more money, who will pay? RTD CEO and General Manager joins producer Paul Karolyi to discuss what she thinks the biggest problems are, her plan for the budget deficit, and what she does when her train is late. 


Paul referenced Nate Minor’s reporting for CPR about the senior leaders who left RTD in recent years and quoted the emailed statement Johnson shared with the Denver Post for this recent story. Johnson quoted some recent data on ridership numbers and talked about RTD’s new tap-to-pay technology. 


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RTD’s CEO Debra Johnson on Lagging Ridership, a Looming Budget Crunch, and Denver’s Car Culture

RTD’s CEO Debra Johnson on Lagging Ridership, a Looming Budget Crunch, and Denver’s Car Culture

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