How do we reach Catholics with the true gospel? How should Christians respond to the Supreme Court ruling on gender? What can we learn from Liverpool FC?

In this episode of In:Dependence, Phil Topham (FIEC Executive Director), Adrian Reynolds (FIEC Head of National Ministries), and John Stevens (FIEC National Director) discuss the stories in the news of the past weeks and what they can teach us about church leadership.

You can watch a video of this episode and get and more resources for church leaders on the FIEC website.

Show notes

• Leaders' Conference 2025 (fiec.org.uk)
• Rising Lights 2026 (fiec.org.uk)
• Pope Francis has died, the Vatican says (news.sky.com)
• Gospel Unity Ethos Statement (fiec.org.uk)
• Five key takeaways from Supreme Court ruling (bbc.co.uk)
• English FA will ban transgender women from women's football from next season (news.sky.com)
• What is a woman? (eauk.org)
• Arne Slot details message from Jurgen Klopp after delivering title success to Liverpool (mirror.co.uk)
• Andrew Flintoff ‘Field of Dreams’ refugee Adnan Miakhel a hit on Lancashire debut (telegraph.co.uk)

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00:00 - Rising Lights 2026

03:01 - Evangelism to people from other faiths

07:36 - Pope Francis' funeral and reaching Catholics with the gospel

14:40 - Implications of the Supreme Court gender ruling

24:24 - Succession lessons from Liverpool FC