We are delighted to share the first episode of the TM Live podcast series Incantations, Reality as Magic: Federico Campagna in Conversation with Chiara Ambrosio. 

What are the different meanings of magic? How can imagination empower us? Does solidarity require an identity, a social or political filiation?

This is part one of a conversation with Federico Campagna and Chiara Ambrosio, where we discuss Federico's book Magic and Technic: the Reconstruction of Reality (Bloomsbury 2018), and Chiara Ambrosio’s film La Frequenza Fantasma (The Phantom Frequency, 2014). Both authors posit magic as a frame of reality for understanding and experiencing the world, and its potential to subvert social hierarchies.

Federico Campagna is a philosopher and writer based in London. His research combines metaphysics, theology and cultural studies, with the aim of exploring fundamental strategies for emancipation in the 21st century.

Chiara Ambrosio is a filmmaker and visual artist based in London, working with animation, documentary, sound and the printed matter.

Curated and hosted by Andrea Cetrulo

Intro music by William Messenger and Sophrosyne

Illustration by Sophie Rogers 

Design by Marcos Villalba